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Post by justajoestar on Aug 2, 2003 13:14:34 GMT -5
I don't think he's death. in the end of the chapter, joline and all the others guys appear.jotaro wasn't with them, but this doesn't mean he's dead... (well, I can't understand chinese...)
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Yuusuke
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Post by Yuusuke on Aug 4, 2003 1:41:36 GMT -5
he's not dead, Jolyne (er, "Eileen," as her variation in the parallel world is called @@ mentions that they're going to meet him.
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Post by Reptilehouse on Aug 6, 2003 4:36:40 GMT -5
Actually, it's supposed to be "Ailyne" ("Ai"=love) and Anakiss. Get it?
What doesn't make sense to me, however is why those guys were reborn in teh new world when they were dead already in the first one.
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Post by Yuusuke on Aug 6, 2003 12:27:42 GMT -5
um, I guess it could be interpreted that way. since it's written in katakana though, there's no right way to spell it in english. I presume that, since the story takes place in america and I've never in my life seen "ailyne" (well, I guess I can't really say that I've seen "anakiss" either, but I suppose one can't say they've really seen the name "anasui" around a lot either ^^ , I took it to be "eileen," the common spelling. enrico has a nice big exposition near the end (when emporio has his head between the ground and weather report's fist) that if he dies, then everything he did will "go back to normal." he doesn't really elaborate too much on that point, but I guess we can presume that what we see at the end is a result of his death.
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Post by justajoestar on Aug 6, 2003 13:48:27 GMT -5
pretty weird... so, because of enrico's death, some kind of parallel world was created? (araki was drunk when he wrote this...)
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Post by Yuusuke on Aug 6, 2003 16:12:47 GMT -5
yeah, the whole parallel world this was pretty weird @@;;; (then again, it might have been the only way for Araki to maintain the Joestar familyline while allowing Enrico to prove how much of a badass he is by killing everybody ^^ Enrico created the "parallel world" while he was alive by speeding up time. Through his death it's kind of implied that things were beginning to reverse themselves back to normal (there's that small scene with the ant... I suppose @@; it's not a huge giveaway), but I don't know if EVERYTHING was meant to go back to the way it once was (since there was the different names and all). ah well...
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Post by akafu on Aug 6, 2003 21:22:25 GMT -5
tha'ts not how it works.... pucci's death doesn't change anything....
araki uses the theory of the universe expands....stops... goes back to the big bang... then everything happens again (which, btw, was generally accepted 20 years ago among the science community but is being disregarded now...)....
so by speeding up time.... pucci made the whole process proceed faster.....
so it's close to the original world with slight variations....
in the very end... jolyene is about to be married to anasui...... and just happened to pick hermes off the road......
they are going to see jolyene's father... who may or may not be jotaro......
nothing is back to normal.... it's a completly different world.....
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Post by Yuusuke on Aug 7, 2003 3:35:43 GMT -5
dude, he explicitly says "Everything I've done up until now will change so that it never happened," in reference to if he dies. He also mentions earlier (as Emporio wakes up in the jail again) that "Jolyne Kujou no longer exists, not even her soul." so, if we are to presume that who we see at the end is indeed Jolyne, then one would also need expect that Enrico's death somehow reversed what he did to a certain extent, especially since- if the end still is a new universe- Enrico's power does not affect dead people (only living creatures) and that there would be no way for Jolyne to exist in that world logically.
And yes, I'm well aware that it isn't literally a "parallel universe" that he created, but I got into a habit of calling it that because that's what Araki Hirokiko called it too ("parallel world to kangaetemoii" tte itta kara....)
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Post by JoJonoUnderworld on Aug 10, 2003 12:48:31 GMT -5
When Pucci died it meant that all of his actions in the real world up to that point never happened in the "parallel world", which means that Part 6 never happened, essentially, because Pucci doesn't exist in the new/parallel world. So it probably means that Jotaro is indeed alive, with a stand, and parts 1-6 happened exactly how they did before, it's just that Jolyne never went to jail, Jotaro and co. never died, and Dio's sons never came together and still don't know that they're Dio's sons or anything. Stands and Jojo still exist, just not part 6. The team from part 6 coming together ust by pure chance at the end was Araki's nice way of having them all still be friends. I liked the ending and I really liked part 6 as a whole, and I'm sad it's over.
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Post by TaKaHaN on Aug 11, 2003 0:58:10 GMT -5
Jotaro and all the gang in series 6 except Emporio is dead.....but they are replaced by "clones" in the parallel world.
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Post by REQUIEM on Aug 11, 2003 21:57:03 GMT -5
I think Jolyne's name in the parallel world was Irene.
It has the same pronounciation in the Manga.
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Post by thevinnymac on Aug 12, 2003 7:51:30 GMT -5
That could be a reference to Araki's "Gorgeous Irene" book.
One thing that bothers me is that if they make a Part 7, what will it be called? With the clones having different names, would it still be JOJO's Bizarre Adventure, or something else?
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